I know I won't be there. Who wants to be outside in July with 100 degrees frying your brain? All the elderly and important Witnesses are sitting in air conditioning while the rest are baking in the sun with heat strokes. And don't forget to pack your cooler and save seats for friends and family. And don't forget the concluding prayer which lasts about 20 minutes.
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2007 District Convention to hammer apostates?
by yaddayadda inthis years "follow the christ" dc looks like it is going to be focused on avoiding all those evil apostates and their falsehoods, judging by some of the dc talks listed on the back of the june 2007 awake!
do not follow false teachers .
do not follow false stories .
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If most men decided to wear a beard today, would the JW's follow?
by JH inthe jw's will say that in jesus time, it was ok to have a beard because it was their custom back then, and today jw's should not have a beard because it's not our custom to have one today.. since the world is ever changing, it will continue changing, and beards might come back and be popular once more.. it's only a cheap excuse on their part, because they will never accept beards, even if every man wore one today..
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FOR THOSE WHO GO TO THE KINGDOM HALL............I HAVE A QUESTION.
by juni inspecifically for those of you who have been in the jw religion many years and still attend -.
do you see a difference in the brothers' and sisters' demeanor (facial and otherwise) and attitude from years ago?
thank you for your input.. juni .
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I attend only once a week . My brain hurts if I go any more.
My congregation has about 30 less members,6 teens disfellowshipped,4 divorces, no new members,less pioneers,no one reaching for any position,and members missing meetings for no reason. Members take more vacations,building big homes,driving nicer cars, and are more concerned about material things. Some don't attend the summer assemblies.Some don't answer at meetings or their answers are word for word from the reading material.Some leave as soon as meetings end. There is no more urgency about the preaching any longer as the hours are down. After the meetings end,there is hardly any talk about spiritual matters.
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Doctrine flip flops
by reneeisorym incan you guys give me some examples of some of the flickers of light?
a jw threw the "the light gets brighter" thing at me and i want to ask what it means when they flip flop between yes and no on issues.
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Well said Terry !
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Doctrine flip flops
by reneeisorym incan you guys give me some examples of some of the flickers of light?
a jw threw the "the light gets brighter" thing at me and i want to ask what it means when they flip flop between yes and no on issues.
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Watchtower 1964 January 15 pp.63-4 Questions from Readers
Questions from Readers
• According to the Bible at Deuteronomy 22:23-27, an Israelite engaged girl threatened with rape was required to scream. What is the position of a Christian woman today if faced with a similar situation? Is she to scream even if an attacker threatens her life with a weapon? -M. U., United States.
According to God's law an Israelite girl was under obligation to scream: "In case there happened to be a virgin girl engaged to a man, and a man actually found her in the city and lay down with her, you must also bring them both out to the gate of that city and pelt them with stones, and they must die, the girl for the reason that she did not scream in the city, and the man for the reason that he humiliated the wife of his fellow man." If, however, the attack took place in a field and the woman screamed and thus tried to get away from the attacker, she was not to be stoned, since she was overpowered and there was no one to rescue her.-Deut. 22:23-27.
But suppose the man had a weapon and threatened to kill the girl if she failed to lie down with him? These scriptures do not weaken the argument or alter the situation by citing any circumstance that would justify her in not screaming. It plainly says she should scream; hence, oppose the attack regardless of the circumstances. If she was overpowered and perhaps knocked unconscious and violated before help came in answer to her screams, she could not be held accountable. The thought of the scriptures apparently is that the girl's screaming, by attracting neighborhood attention, would frighten off her assailant and would save her, even though he threatened her life for not quietly complying with his wishes and passionate desires.
Such Scriptural precedents are applicable to Christians, who are under command, "Flee from fornication." (1 Cor. 6:18) Thus if a Christian woman does not cry out and does not put forth every effort to flee, she would be viewed as consenting to the violation. The Christian woman who wants to keep clean and obey God's commandments, then, if faced with this situation today, needs to be courageous and to act on the suggestion made by the Scriptures and scream. Actually this counsel is for her welfare; for, if she should submit to the man's passionate wishes, she would not only be consenting to fornication or adultery, but be plagued by the shame. There would be shame, not only from the repulsiveness of the experience, but of having been coerced into breaking God's law by having sex connections with one other than a legal marriage mate. Not only that, but she might become an unwed mother, or she may contract a terrible disease from her morally debased attacker.
It is true that a woman faces the possibility her assailant will carry out his threat; but, then, what guarantee does she have that such a desperate criminal would not kill her after satisfying his passion? In fact, such a one, perhaps already hunted by the law, may be more likely to kill her after the attack, since she would then have had a greater opportunity to identify him and would therefore be in a better position to supply a description of him to the authorities. In such case, following the Scriptural counsel of screaming could well save one's life by attracting attention and driving the attacker away at the outset, instead of causing him to feel that he must get rid of his victim for fear of being identified later.
In most instances it is doubtless a matter of calling the assailant's bluff, since the girl's screams could result in his arrest for attempted rape. Also, if he carried out his threat and committed murder, he would face the likelihood of apprehension and conviction for this even more serious offense. Of course, there is the possibility that instead of fleeing immediately, the attacker may strike his victim or inflict a superficial wound to silence the screams, yet would not the endurance of such physical punishment be insignificant compared to the disgrace and shame of submitting to an immoral man?
A Christian woman is entitled to fight for her virginity or marital fidelity to the death. Just how best she can defend herself against anyone who wants to defile her depends upon her courage and quick wits. At least, as has been mentioned, she should first try to frighten off the would-be rapist by screaming and making as loud and noisy a spectacle of the matter as she possibly can, in order to summon any convenient aid. This being unavailing, then she has a right to defend her virtue by whatever means she can.
The morals of this generation have indeed sunk to an unprecedented low, just as Bible prophecy foretold for these last days. The fact that over 15,000 women a year, about one every half hour, are raped in the United States alone emphasizes this fact. It also serves as a warning to women that they should exercise care so as to avoid dangerous situations. Since women are almost always attacked when they are alone, they should arrange to have a companion along, especially when they are out after dark. And in localities where it is considered dangerous for women even during daylight hours, women should not go out alone but should take along a companion. God's Word says: "If somebody could overpower one alone, two together could make a stand against him. And a threefold cord cannot quickly be torn in two." (Eccl. 4:12) For a Christian woman to persist in going out alone in a city or locality where women are frequently attacked is to invite trouble and needlessly endanger life. It is the part of wisdom to give thought to what could happen in a given situation and then take the necessary precautions. The wise person foresees danger and takes steps to avoid it. "The shrewd one considers his steps."-Prov. 14:15.
Flip Flop
Watchtower 1983 March 15 pp.30-1 Honor Godly Marriage!
Defining "Fornication"
What do we understand here by "fornication"? The Greek word in this text is porneia.
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A male or a female who is forcibly raped would not be guilty of porneia.
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Doctrine flip flops
by reneeisorym incan you guys give me some examples of some of the flickers of light?
a jw threw the "the light gets brighter" thing at me and i want to ask what it means when they flip flop between yes and no on issues.
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Facts About the Jehovah's Witnesses
(The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society) Copyright © 1997 Institute for Religious Research. All rights reserved.In 1975 the WTB&TS taught that the man who sows the seed in the parable of the mustard seed (Matthew 13) is Satan. Later that same year the WT Society taught that this sower was Jesus.
A similar incident occurred in 1978, when the WTB&TS identified the "Alpha and Omega" of Revelation 22:12-13 as Jehovah (that is, God the Father), and then five weeks later taught these verses referred to Jesus.
The Watchtower Society's failure to correctly interpret the Bible is most clearly seen in their doctrinal flip-flops. First they teach position A, then they change to position B , claiming God has given them "new light." Later on, however, they revert back to their old teaching (position A) and in some cases change once again to position B. Here are some examples.
Resurrection of the Men of Sodom
1879 - They will be resurrected.
1952 - They will not be resurrected.
1965 - They will be resurrected.
1988 - They will not be resurrected.The 'Lord' in Roman s 10:12-16
1903 - 'Lord' refers to Jesus.
1940 - 'Lord' refers to Jehovah.
1978 - 'Lord' refers to Jesus.
1980 - 'Lord' refers to Jehovah.' Higher Powers' o f Romans 13:1
1916 - 'Higher powers' refers to governments.
1943 - 'Higher powers' refers to Jehovah God & Jesus Christ.
1964 - 'Higher powers' refers to governments.Separating 'sheep and goats' (Matt. 25:31-46)
1919 - will take place after the time of tribulation.
1923 - is taking place now, before the tribulation.
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Follow the Who????
by seek2find ini find it interesting that the title of this years dc is "follow the christ" it will be interesting to see how they twist the theme around to "follow the christ by following the orginazation".
i'm sure they will find the way to do so.
any thoughts anyone???
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Follow the Christ? That's a new one! The only time WTS use the name Jesus is in closing out prayers. Everything is about the'' organization'' and the "faithful and discreet slave." Everything is about rules and regulations. How to present magazines. How to mark down return visits. How to behave at assemblies. How to groom and dress.
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Are Jehovah's Witness children really Ministers?
by RULES & REGULATIONS infrom wikipedia, the free encyclopediain christianchurches, a minister is a man or woman who serves a congregation or participates in a role in a parachurch ministry; such persons can minister as a pastor, preacher, bishop, chaplain, deacon or elder, or as a layperson.
an increasing number of charismatic christians recognize the offices of the five-fold ministry, which they consider a revival of original christian practice.. in protestantchurches, minister usually refers to a member of the ordainedclergy who leads a congregation or participates in a role in a parachurch ministry; such a person may also be called a pastor, preacher, bishop, chaplain or elder.. professional ministers in many religious affiliations are seen as set apart from the community to which they minister through ordination.
they are often provided a stipend rather than a wage or salary.
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Thank you for the research!
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Are Jehovah's Witness children really Ministers?
by RULES & REGULATIONS infrom wikipedia, the free encyclopediain christianchurches, a minister is a man or woman who serves a congregation or participates in a role in a parachurch ministry; such persons can minister as a pastor, preacher, bishop, chaplain, deacon or elder, or as a layperson.
an increasing number of charismatic christians recognize the offices of the five-fold ministry, which they consider a revival of original christian practice.. in protestantchurches, minister usually refers to a member of the ordainedclergy who leads a congregation or participates in a role in a parachurch ministry; such a person may also be called a pastor, preacher, bishop, chaplain or elder.. professional ministers in many religious affiliations are seen as set apart from the community to which they minister through ordination.
they are often provided a stipend rather than a wage or salary.
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From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
In Christianchurches, a minister is a man or woman who serves a congregation or participates in a role in a parachurch ministry; such persons can minister as a Pastor, Preacher, Bishop, Chaplain, Deacon or Elder, or as a layperson. An increasing number of charismatic Christians recognize the offices of the five-fold ministry, which they consider a revival of original Christian practice.
In Protestantchurches, minister usually refers to a member of the ordainedclergy who leads a congregation or participates in a role in a parachurch ministry; such a person may also be called a Pastor, Preacher, Bishop, Chaplain or Elder.
Professional ministers in many religious affiliations are seen as set apart from the community to which they minister through ordination. They are often provided a stipend rather than a wage or salary. By way of contrast, ministers of low churches, brethren, or non-denominational churches are often uncredentialled and often uncompensated.
All denominations make some claim to finding their model of leadership (or church governance) in the New Testament. However the variety of relationships is large, ranging from the low church view of a minister as one of the people to that of the minister as priest, set apart and with special authority.
I always found a problem with the WTS teaching that children are Ministers. Can someone scan an article were they claim this?
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gawd..could they possibly walk and slower???
by LovesDubs inthis is a life saving work these people are doing???
i stood and watched as a group of jws got out of the ugliest square box of a four-door car in my neighborhood, split up into two pairs and proceeded to do what i have to assume were not at homes.
the two women were walking up the driveway of the home next door to me which hasnt had anyone living in it for five years and i watched just for kicks to see how long it took them to traverse the 100 feet or so to the front door.
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I work outdoors and see them walk slower than a turtle. They always walk close to each other,talk and waste time looking thru their service bags to get their reading material out. They always stop on the corner and wait to meet one another and waste time there.
But,do you blame them? The WTS make it mandatory to preach.So they have no choice but to get in their 2 hours and talk ,walk as slow as possible and take coffee breaks.
Is this what you want walking in the Kingdom Hall? Won't it scare kids? Wouldn't Gillette go out of business? 
